I’m sharing all the details about glass shower enclosures including cost and which options might be worth it and which aren’t!
Thanks so much for all of your sweet words about our master bathroom reveal! One thing many of you wanted more info about is our glass shower enclosure so I’m dishing all of the details on that today including the extra options I chose, why I chose them, and the full cost breakdown too. (post includes some affiliate links – full disclosure statement available {here})
Before jumping in, if you missed our master bathroom reveal post, start by checking that out {here}! As a reminder, this is what our new shower looks like:
Master Bathroom Sources – Shower: Pump bottles (16 oz white/gold) | Body brush | Sea sponge | Stool | Shelves: Floating shelves | White woven basket (medium) | Gray & white striped planter (holding snake plant) | Colorful moth art print | White wood frame | Glass canister (1 gallon size) | Bath bombs | Belly basket with tassel | Favorite bath towels | Large lidded basket for hamper | Freestanding bathtub
I chose a simple design without a built-in shower bench and a frameless glass enclosure that’s 60″ long x 37″ wide with a 28″ door. The price was definitely higher than I expected – going into it I was guessing it would maybe be around $1500? No such luck – the base price I was quoted for the shower enclosure + installation was $2400 (note that I got multiple bids and they were all three quite close to each other but prices here are higher than pretty much every other area of the country so I would consider the dollar figures I’m sharing to be at the upper end of what you might be quoted). This is for a frameless unit with standard ⅜″ tempered glass, brushed nickel wall hinges, non-mitered door, and standard 6″ pull. But where they really get you is with all of the extras – there were a ton of options and choices to make. I’ll share each of them along with the additional cost and what I chose to add on (and what I decided wasn’t worth it).
Frameless Shower Clips vs. U-Channel
One of the biggest design decisions I made was whether to go with frameless shower clips at all points where the glass meets the tile or to use U-channels as supports for the glass panels. Here’s an example of your typical shower clip:
Most people choose to go with all clips on both the sides and bottom of the glass because technically “frameless” shower enclosures don’t have any type of framing or channels – they are supported entirely with clips. But I went against the grain on this one and chose to go with wall clips along the side and U-channels along the base of the glass. If you don’t know what a U-channel is, it’s basically a short U-shaped metal strip that the glass rests in:
The two reasons I chose to use them are: (1) when the glass shower enclosure is resting directly on tile and sealed with clear caulk like it is with clips, over time mold/mildew often develops under the clear caulk where it’s impossible to reach and clean. Because of this, many people find that they have to frequently cut the mildewed caulk out and recaulk. This is more common with natural stone like I have than porcelain tile because of the porous nature of natural stone. When you use a U-channel you don’t have this issue. Reason (2) is that I actually like the streamlined look of the U-channel on the bottom instead of the clips:
Our overall bathroom design has more of an updated classic feel than an extremely modern one and I felt like the design of the U-channel fit that aesthetic best. In terms of pricing, some companies charge about $100-$200 less for using U-channels than clips because the cut of the bottom of the glass doesn’t have to be quite as precise with a U-channel – my proposal was the same price regardless of which I chose.
Glass Treatment to Prevent Water Spots
Another add-on option is a glass treatment that seals pores in the glass to make it resistant to water spots and stains. In some cases this is done during the fabrication of the glass and in others it is sprayed on as a sealant after production of the glass. It helps keep your glass clean and from becoming cloudy over time. This is a great option to consider if (1) you have hard water and (2) you don’t have the best track record for regularly cleaning your shower glass.
I was quoted an extra $540 to add-on this glass treatment – yikes! I decided to pass on this option and instead try and be a more diligent cleaner to keep our glass enclosure cost closer to what we had budgeted for it. I also might try out {this spray glass treatment} that works similarly (but has to be re-applied frequently). I do know several people who swear by how much easier the factory applied glass treatment has made it to maintain their shower so it could be a decision I regret with time – we will see!
Regular Glass vs. Low Iron Glass
Shower glass is fairly thick which gives it a subtle green hue. One add-on option is to choose low iron glass that is completely clear, without the greenish hue. It’s called ultra-clear glass, opti-white, Starphire glass, and various other names. Along with the glass being completely clear, when you look directly at the edge of the glass, instead of it appearing green like it normally would, it has more of a bluish tint:
I debated this decision a LOT mainly because it’s a super pricey option – I was quoted an additional $648. After researching and getting LOTS of opinions, what I found is that if you don’t have white tile the difference probably isn’t noticeable enough to warrant spending the extra money. But if you have white tile like I do, it might be because you can definitely tell the difference. As much as it pained me, this was the one costly add-on we went with – I LOVE my shower tile and didn’t want one of my final decisions on our bathroom one that made me unhappy with the overall result.
It definitely did live up to the hype – you can see as you look at my bathroom tile through the glass of the shower enclosure and through the open door, there’s no change in color:
Shower Glass Thickness: ⅜″ vs ½″
The most commonly used glass thickness for shower enclosures is ⅜″ but an upgrade to ½″ was another add-on option (my quote for this upgrade was $648). The benefit of ½″ glass is that the extra thickness provides additional stability. Also, some people simply like the thicker look. Unless you’re one of those people (personally I like the look of the thinner glass) the main reasons you’d want to choose ½″ glass is if you have glass panels that are taller than typical (like 80″+) or if your shower door is hinged off one of your glass panels instead of being hinged off the wall like mine:
This decision was an easy one for me – we stuck with the less expensive ⅜″ glass.
Decorative Handles
Most shower door companies include a standard curved handle on both sides of the glass door in their basic price. Different styles are an upgrade with the price depending on the style. I wasn’t a big fan of the standard handle and went for an upgraded handle that I thought tied in the design of the tile on our tub wall really well:
The cost for this upgrade? $200
Robe Hooks or Towel Bar
There are also several options that allow you to hang your towel on the shower enclosure if that’s something you’d be like to be able to do. One options is a robe hook (I was quoted an additional $125 for per hook) that’s on both sides of the glass – on the inside of the glass you can hang the towel you’re going to use after showering and then when you’re done using your towel you can hang it on the outside to dry. There is also the option to add a towel bar as an extension of the door handle on one or both sides. I wanted to keep the clean-lined look of our shower enclosure so I chose not to do either of these and instead installed {these three robe hooks} for towels on the wall by our vanity:
Vanity Area Sources: Wood & rattan double vanity | Vanity knobs | Bathroom faucets – brushed nickel | Vanity lights | Vanity mirrors – gold | Woven seagrass tray on vanity | Cross base planter | Marble stacking dishes | Soap & lotion sink set with tray | Toothbrush holder | Bamboo toothbrushes | Gray & white striped towels | Robe hooks – golden champagne
A Few Last Options
Believe it or there were still a few more options to consider:
- Mitered glass door where the door only opens out (an additional $180) – the benefit of this is that the mitered edge helps create a tighter seal when the door is shut to prevent water from leaking out. I actually like having the door be able to swing both in and out so this was an easy no thanks.
- Custom height – I wanted our enclosure to be a little bit higher than standard so it was taller than our shower head – this was an additional $100
- Having the U-channel and framing clips be a brushed nickel finish on real brass framing (an additional $580). This is an upgrade of the standard anodized aluminum finish which is similar in appearance but not identical to the brushed nickel wall hinges and handle. I passed on this one.
Total Cost for Our Glass Shower Enclosure
The total estimate for our shower enclosure with installation ranged from $2420 to $5516 depending upon how many extras we chose. Starting with the base price of $2420 and adding the ultra-clear glass ($648), upgraded handle ($200), and additional height ($100), our total cost was $3368. Crazy expensive right?! I got multiple estimates and they were all within 10% of each other so I feel like this is a good cost estimate for the NYC area but as I mentioned at the beginning of the post, prices here are higher than almost everywhere else so something similar in a different area of the country will likely cost less, sometimes MUCH less.
Phew… we made it through! Would you ever have guessed that buying a shower enclosure could be so complicated? I hope this post helps any of you who are in the midst of a major bathroom renovation or who have one planned for down the road. Want more details on our master bathroom reno? You’ll find these posts helpful:
Master Bathroom Ideas: My Ten Favorites!
Must-Have Bathroom Measurements
Marble in a Bathroom: Would I Do It Again?
XO,
Kathe Irowez says
Love your bathroom, and all the info on your shower. I have one that’s very similar from my master bath remodel 3 years ago. I did get the glass treatment and so far, fabulous (but I’m alot better about cleaning after each shower than I was with my old one!). Mine sits on the marble with just the sealant and so far so good. I do have a question though. At the end you talked about an option you didn’t pay for because you wanted your door to swing inside the shower – why? I can’t imagine a scenario where I would want to do that. And how does the door stay in place? Mine probably would swing inside but there is a seal from top to bottom that it closes against – how it stays closed and nicely sealed during a shower. How does yours stay closed and in place if you touch it? Thank you – love your blog!
Kris Jarrett says
Hi Kathe – we had a glass shower enclosure in our old house where the door swung both ways and we liked that you could push the door in when you’re hopping in the shower and be able to easily close it behind you without getting into the shower spray in case it’s too hot or too cold. Then we push it the opposite direction when getting out. The shower door just naturally swings shut to the middle position from either side and we don’t have any issues with water getting out since the shower spray isn’t directly on it. Definitely just a personal choice but Jeff and I both liked the duo swing option when we had it before so didn’t see a reason to add that additional cost. Hope that helps explain – thanks so much for your sweet words about my blog!
Michele M says
Thank you so much for this breakdown. We soooo need to upgrade and I truly didn’t even know where to start when the engineer/designers want to know our budget. At least this gives me some starting point.
I love your choices – it truly is the Perfect Shower!
Kris Jarrett says
I’m so glad it was helpful for you! Good luck with working on your bathroom upgrade!
Amber says
Thank you so much for sharing this information. I would never have guessed there were so many options to glass enclosures! The expense seems reasonable at first unless you start saying yes to all the upgrades!
I’m trying to figure out where you had the mother of pearl penny tile installed. Where is it?
Kris Jarrett says
The costs can definitely add up quickly! I don’t have any mother of pearl tile in the space but maybe you mean the marble hexagon tile on the shower floor? It is from Walker Zanger – you can find a link to it and my other tile in my reveal post here: https://www.drivenbydecor.com/master-bathroom-reveal/
Amber says
Hi Kris! Thanks for the reply. After looking back (and trying to find the mother of pearl photo), I now realize it must have been an ad. Sorry for the head scratcher.
Susan says
Kris, thank you for explaining so much! I am completely lost at this. A couple of questions: 1) Did your price include any demo or old shower/bath? 2) Besides looks, is there some reason to avoid using a pan-inset on the shower floor?
Kris Jarrett says
The pricing only includes the new glass – no demo (this was a completely new space so we didn’t have any old doors to remove). And no, there’s no reason to avoid a premade shower pan – it’s definitely a money saver to do!
Ann-Marie says
Thank you so much for sharing!! As I’m reading your post, this is my view. (Sitting on floor of master bath. All tile, vanities, mirrors, lights, toilet, removed. Finishing last part of shower and removal of jacuzzi ( I know…1980 has been calling all day) Perfect timing. Thank you.
Ann-Marie says
Oh! Forgot to ask: did you price comp ledge shower vs curbless shower?
Kris Jarrett says
Hi Ann-Marie – I didn’t compare the price on the two because I wasn’t ever thinking about going with a curbless shower for mine. Good luck with your project!
Gisella says
I love the tile work, can you post where you got all the tile?
Kris Jarrett says
Sure, all of my tile is sourced in my master bathroom reveal post here: https://www.drivenbydecor.com/master-bathroom-reveal/
Mary says
Thank you so much for this info. It really helps me to start visualizing all of these choices. Beautiful job!
Sharon says
Love your bathroom and shower. We did complete reno of two upstairs bathrooms 1 1/2 years ago. Was on budget until it came to the shower enclosure and then we too were hit with sticker shock and ended up going over budget. We did go with the clips on the bottom and for now they are fine, raised the glass height, and chose the factory installed glass treatment. No right or wrong choices just personal taste and budget considerations.
Hope you are enjoying your new bathroom.
Sharon
Kris Jarrett says
It was sticker shock for me at the end too! Enjoy your weekend!
Ann says
The bathroom is gorgeous!! I am in CT too and just starting to think about a master bath remodel. Quick question – what company did you use for the shower door?
Kris Jarrett says
Thank you! I used Mr. Shower Door for mine – they had a showroom that we went to to see some of the different options in person too which helped!
Kelly says
Thank you for the thorough research you shared with us in this post. I am starting to plan our bathroom remodel and you have saved me a lot of work. Your bathroom looks absolutely beautiful!
Laurie C carpenter says
Hi Kris,
Sorry I’m coming late to the party. Gorgeous bathroom, but would I expect anything less, NO!
I wanted to just pass on a helpful hint about cleaning the shower glass. About once a month just before I get out of the shower (usually on a Saturday morning when I’m not going to work…)I give the glass a wipe down. First I use a Mr. Clean sponge, (actually the Walmart knock off). It removes everything without any chemicals. Give the glass a rinse off before stepping out of the shower. I dry the glass off & do something else leaving the shower door open so the glass dries thoroughly. Then I give all the interior glass a wipe down with Rainex wipes. It works just like on your windshield. The water just beads up & rolls right off the glass eliminating water spots. It comes in a spray too, but I like the wipes because I usually only need one & I don’t waster paper towels. Hope this helps! Laurie
Kris Jarrett says
I’m a Mr. Clean sponge user for the shower too! That’s an AWESOME tip about the wipes – thanks!
Lisa O'Brien says
What kind of tile did you use and what was that cost?
Kris Jarrett says
Hi Lisa – you can find links to all of the tile in my bathroom in my reveal post here: https://www.drivenbydecor.com/master-bathroom-reveal/
Volker Schramm says
This is great. The detail about the choices are excellent. We’re about to refurbish ours when we came across your article. Very helpful. Question: I’m assuming this didn’t include the tile work. How much did that cost?
Kelsey says
What tile did you use for the shower wall and floor? I love it!
Sue P. says
Thank you so much for sharing all this information about your glass shower enclosure. We’re just beginning the planning process for our master bath remodel and your post gives us a lot to think about. I’m hoping the prices in TN are lower! 🙂 I looked back at your reveal post and your bathroom is SO PRETTY! I love all your choices and how it all came together. Thanks for your descriptions and sources.
Sue
Tom Guthrie says
I need to start off by saying that I have my own business providing and installing shower doors like yours. I was shocked by the amount you had to pay. You mention that prices in CT are higher, but I am in CA and can’t believe the prices are that much more…
For comparison, my base price for your size shower would be $1,630 (material, labor, and tax included). That is 3/8″ clear glass, brushed nickel hinges and clips (not channel, which I will address in a moment), non-mitred door (I would never do a mitred door, which I will address in another moment), and a standard 8″ handle, not 6″.
I will no go through those add-ons:
Clips are standard in my book, and I only use channel if there is a specific reason or request for it. There is no more risk of mildew with clips than there is with channel as long as you use milder resistant silicone (and clean it on a somewhat regular basis). Having porous stone is not really a problem as long as you seal the stone (which you definitely should do to protect it from discoloration and hard water pitting). Clips provide better support for the glass, since they are actually clamped on and holding it firmly. With channel the glass is just sitting in the channel. And the clips I use are a lot nicer and less obtrusive than those that you pictured. Now, you mention that you prefer the look of the channel, which is perfectly fine, obviously, it is a personal choice. But a serious issue with channel that I should mention is that the metal is more likely to attract and collect hard water and calcium deposits. I do not charge differently for channel or clips.
Glass treatment to help prevent water spots is certainly a choice. However, the price you were quoted seems especially high. My rule of thumb is to add $100 per panel ($300 total for your particular shower). However, using Rain-X ($6) on the glass is a much more cost efficient way of doing it. Yes, it does need to be reapplied ever 3-6 months, but for a small fraction of the price, that is not a big deal. One thing to note with either of these options though, is that you still need to take care of the glass. Spot treatment does not stop spots. You still need to squeegy or wipe down the glass daily if possible. The spot treatment just makes it easier to clean if you miss a spot, or miss a day because you were running late.
Standard glass vs. low-iron glass is entirely a personal preference. Your quote of an additional $648 is a bit high for that shower however, I would have priced that at no more than $350.
3/8″ vs. 1/2″ glass… the additional stability of 1/2″ glass is negligible. However, the added weight of the thicker doors can cause the hinges to wear faster. Plus, nobody can tell if you have 3/8″ or 1/2″ unless you see the edge of the glass, so why spend the extra $? Plus, the thicker the glass, the greener it will appear (if you go with standard cleare glass).
Handles -the handle you got is no more than a $50 upgrade, tops.
Robe hooks are purely a personal choice, but $125 is a bit steep… $75 tops.
Miter glass door – why is this even an option? Do you really want a mitered glass edge to bump up against another mitered glass edge? Edges are the most fragile part of the glass, and mitered edges are even more fragile, what do you imagine would happen if you closed the door hard? If you want a tighter seal, then put a clear plastic strike jamb on the edge of the panel for the door to close against… and it’ll only cost you $10.
You did mention that you like the door to also swing in, but another advantage of that is that you can leave the door opened in after you are done showering for the day to help air circulate in the shower and dry out the grout, which will help prevent milder.
You don’t mention the height of your door, but my prices cover up to 80″ tall.
There is absolutely no reason to get brass hardware for the clips or channel. None at all. That is just a brazen grab at your money. Now, brass hinges is something else. Absolutely get brass hinges. But you shouldn’t pay extra for them.
So, for the unit you got, I would have charge you…. base price of $1,630 + $350 for low iron glass +$50 for the upgraded handle (which if you’ll remember is 2″ larger than what you got) = a grand total of $2,030.
Now, I know that you said prices in CT are higher, but are they really that much more? That is a difference of $1,338! That is almost another shower door base price!
I know you mentioned that you got multiple quotes that all came in within 10% of each other, but still….
Kris Jarrett says
Yes, CT pricing is crazy – I’ve lived in 8 states including CA so have a good bit of knowledge on how it compares to other areas and it’s by far the highest here. I got three bids and ran the estimates by my contractor too so definitely did my due diligence. That’s why I mentioned twice in my post to consider the figures I gave to be at the high end of any estimates. Glad to hear you agree with all of the decisions I made for our enclosure including glass width and declining brass hardware, the mitered door, and the glass treatment. I’m super happy with it!
Kira H says
Wow, thank you for this additional info from a pro! Where in CA are you located? Name of business? These details from you and Kris are SO helpful and appreciated.
Rafaela says
Hello ,the price that you are offering is great…..Im going to purchase my shower door and I have been checking 3-4 places and also Im located in MA and the prices here is very expensive. Based on your prices theres any way for you to ship to MA? I would love to hear about this option that before I make my final Decision.
Thanks,Rafaela
Mairenis says
Thanks so much for this! I just purchased my shower door today.. a whopping $3,000! I’m in NYC. I wished I would’ve found this page and read this before. Like you, I got several quotes that were similar in price. The only thing I’m worried about is that I the glass will have the slight blue hue (didn’t go for the upgrade)! And I have white tile! 😬 crossing my fingers that it turns out ok. How have the glass held up? What do you use to clean it and how often do you clean it?
Tanya says
Your bathroom is gorgeous! You have inspired me to redecorate mine- which is long is overdue. My only concern with the small tile is cleaning the grout- have you found it to be a problem? Are you able to keep it looking as nice as your pics? I would love any thoughts or feedback. Thanks!
Noel says
I need the details on these wall shelves! How deep are they?
Kris Jarrett says
Hi Noel – you can find all the details on those here: https://www.drivenbydecor.com/floating-wood-shelves/
Sheath says
Hi Kris! I’m about to order my glass, and your post has convinced me to upgrade to the low iron glass with my white tile. I wasn’t prepared for the shock of the glass cost either! 🙂 Thank you for the info and the inspiration! My shower curb is 4.75″ wide. And I’m trying to decide where the shower wall and door should sit on that curb? Did you center the glass on the curb wall? Or did you take it a little further, so that most of the curb was inside the glass, Kris? It seems to make sense to have more of the curb enclosed in the shower, but I didn’t know if that impacts stability or functionality if not centered right on the curb?
Kris Jarrett says
Mine is centered on the curb 🙂
Belinda says
In little Corpus Christi, Tx we were quoted $7800 just for the glass alone. that’s crazy and made us change our minds. your’s is beautiful.
Lois Merrill says
An excellent article and comments! Very helpful as I’m just beginning to research a redo using a glass shower surround and soaking tub. Thank you!
Chris says
Thank you for posting all that info, we are about to remodel our shower here in Michigan, I didn’t realize all those options would be available to me!
Lori says
Thank you for your post and including pricing. I’m in the middle of deciding to update our shower and I can finally come up with a realistic budget. I had no idea about all this different upgrades and that it would cost so much!
Kristin says
Your bathroom is absolutely beautiful! Where did you purchase your tile and your flooring? We are in the process of redoing our bathroom and I am using yours as an inspiration!
Kris Jarrett says
Thank you! This post has sources for everything: https://www.drivenbydecor.com/master-bathroom-reveal/
David says
Amazing project! I hope our bathroom design ends up this nice. What are the dimensions of the shaving niche?
Kris Jarrett says
Thank you! This post has all of my shower measurement details: https://www.drivenbydecor.com/bathroom-measurements-towel-bar-toilet-paper-holder/
Ashley says
I love the bathroom and want to copy it. What paint color did you use?
Rachel says
This is such a great post! I too am considering getting a new glass shower door that opens in both directions. I am wondering, do you need a vertical silicone strip along the side of the door to create a water tight seal or is it okay without one?
Kris Jarrett says
Yes mine does have a clear vertical strip along that edge – I actually didn’t even know it was there until I went looking so I could answer your question – you really can’t see it!
Kat Browning says
I was literally thinking about this as a show solution in our (much smaller!) Bathroom in Manchester – I knew there was a bit to consider but with you having gone through it step by step it’s really given me food for thought! Thank you for the time and thought that you’ve put into making this post!
Alexis DeJong says
Where did you get the tile for the shower wall from?!?!
Kris Jarrett says
Hi Alexis – the tile and everything else in my bathroom is sourced in my reveal post here: https://www.drivenbydecor.com/master-bathroom-reveal/
Sarah says
Hi Kris, your bathroom renovation turned out beautifully! I’m curious how the marble hex tile is holding up on the shower floor? I heard marble is super high mainentance, needs to be sealed multiple times a year, and absorbs stains from shampoos easily. But I love the look of it. Just need an honest opinion on if you recommend it? Thanks!
Kris Jarrett says
Hi Sarah – mine is holding up great! I have more detailed info on it in this post: https://www.drivenbydecor.com/marble-tile-bathroom/
Myrna says
Thank you for this informative article. You’ve answered practically all of my questions regarding installing a shower enclosure. Your master bathroom is lovely. You have impeccable taste. I wish you many years of enjoyment.
Susan Mendus says
Thank you. This post will be a big help to me. I had no idea there were so many options!
Anonymous says
Love your bathroom
Danielle says
Do you know the name and brand of the paint colour?
Coral says
So In love with all of your bathroom choices and using many of your suggestions! My contractor mentioned something about just $5000 in glass I almost fell on the floor! With your shower you have the curb? what is that made from? Is that marble? Thanks again!!! The doors are something I never thought about 😀
Kris Jarrett says
Thank you! Yes, our curb is Carrara marble.
Coral says
What did you use for your bullnose finish? I’m using the same marble for shower and floor and it doesn’t look like there is a matching bullnose.
Michelle says
Looks like she used a pencil tile on all the edges as that’s what we did. It’s timeless and we love it! And looks like thick solid marble was used around the niche (similar to the bottom threshold) which I wish we did. We used pencil tile to frame our niches but it doesn’t look as clean as Kris’s but still happy with it overall.
Debbie says
Hi, I can’t find where you gave the information about your bathroom floor. Would you mind letting me know. Thanks
Michelle says
Wish I saw this 6 years ago! I didn’t know about the channel and would have definitely done that instead of none like we chose. Now I am 3 weeks into doing exactly what you mentioned-trying to remove the clear silicone caulk without scratching our marble/glass. At this point, I think I’ll see if I can hire someone to do it! Me advice is to definitely do the channel on the bottom like Kris did!!
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Coralis says
Hi Kris, I have spent endless hours on the internet researching cost and budgeting for our master bathroom remodel. Just yesterday we met with a contractor, and we only discussed what things we wanted changed from our current bathroom. We now wait for the quote, but your page has provided us with incredible information. Especially, when it comes to those little details that at a glance don’t seem a big deal, but can have a huge impact in the future. I’m really going to be curious about cost for me here in Massachusetts, but I don’t expected to be that much different. Your bathroom turned out beautiful, elegant, and timeless. Hope you are still happy with all of your decisions and love it as much as the first day it was finished. Many thanks!
Susan says
Hi Kris
I’m about to start a much needed Reno master bathroom. This might be a silly question but how do find a good contractor to do my bath or find the right people to do it?
Thanks
Susan
Lori says
Wow! this is beautiful and the info is very helpful. Thank you!